catholic view on astrology
Is that still considered a sin? Hugh Barbour: Thats Saint Maximus, Massimo de Torino. All right, Dominic Bishop, and Francis martyrs, all right, who were killed by the Emperor Ming Huang who [crosstalk 00:18:10]. What we call astrology was simply the astronomy, antiquity, before the change, when you had the Copernican Revolution in Galileo and all that. Be warned! Now I had also repudiated the lying divination and impious absurdities of the astrologers . Dont believe in astrology its just simply killing yourself.you lose your hopes,courage,strength.and its not useful anyway.maybe its right sometimes.but remember god is more more more powerful.just believe in god youll never suffer. Fr. But we are superior to Fate, and instead of wandering demons, we have learned to know one Lord, who wanders not (ibid., 9). Well, thats all just completely to be avoided because that can be dangerous stuff. People Born on April 22 - Famous April 22nd Birthdays. Hugh Barbour: As a result, our house was always a place of argument, jealousy, distrust, poverty, sickness, alcoholism, sexual deviation and overall tension is it any surprise. He gets in trouble if people dont subscribe and like when they go to the YouTube site. [16][17] The friar Laurens Pignon (c. 13681449)[18] similarly rejected all forms of divination and determinism, including by the stars, in his 1411 Contre les Devineurs. France:Hadean Press, Cummins A (2012) The Starry Rubric: Seventeenth-Century English Astrology and Magic, p. 4345. Are you going to tell me any of my saints? We observe among the arts also some professions liable to the charge of idolatry. Fr. Ive never seen an astrology book or reading that tells someone they habitually lie, that theyre lazy, that they cheat, and so on. No one else. My own parents were devout Catholics but were also fans of astrology, and knew their sign, as well as mine and my siblings. St. June 25th. Fr. Nor is it to be wondered at, for they are not prophets; but, by long practice, the authors of errors find a sort of refuge in those things by which they were deceived, and introduce certain climacteric periods, that they may pretend a knowledge of uncertain things. Before that, youre under her guardian angel. [26][27], English astrology had reached its zenith by the 17th century. France:Hadean Press, http://astrologyclub.org/why-christianity-opposed-astrology/, "The astrological instruments of Thomas Hood", "Catechism of the Catholic Church - Part 3", https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Christian_views_on_astrology&oldid=1143472875, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0, This page was last edited on 7 March 2023, at 23:23. Telling them the dangers about that medium astrology stuff. (very disastrous situation). Had a bad day? But four centuries ago, the idea of a heliocentric solar system was so controversial that the Catholic Church classified it as a heresy, and warned the Italian astronomer Galileo Galilei to abandon it. The Big Bang happened 13.4 billion years ago and God knows the position and disposition of every quark and photon in the entire universe ever but if you cough up $500, Maggy the Psychic at the Turnpike Mall can read minds, palms an even talk to your dead dog. [21], What is done by God, ought not to be ascribed to the stars. On the contrary, they honour the hope However, what destiny Fate would assign to a man could be determined by reading the stars. I go to mass once a week and I am building my faith. The improved interpretative faculties bestowed by an iced double espresso notwithstanding, the Catholic Church teaches its best to leave horoscopes alone. Belief in astrology never leads to God. Youre saying in Gods great providence, in his ability to see and govern all things, that theres a general sense in which this applies to everyone in the church, but theres a specific sense in which it applies to each one of us that avails ourselves of reading it, that he means for you personally-. Cy Kellett: When you give us that good review. Fr. They have both feet on the ground. But our birthday is also very good, because what do we get on our birthday? Many others have been led to despair and fatalism, or deeper into occult practices. The apocalypse is full of signs. all astrologers have integrity. Tertullian reminds us, Nothing of God costs money. Why would a person who claims to have a God-given talent, to be spiritually-perfect and to be on a God-directed mission, want to charge people for the exercise of that gift? The actual simple astrology as they practiced then, that God gives signs through the heavens that indicate some disposition of his will and all that. How can that be fortune telling or divination? If you look at astrology stuff nowadays, especially online, youre going to get things linked to all kinds of stuff thats unacceptable that does try to foretell the future, or even told that you can click now and talk to an online psychic for a price. There is no harm in learning what sign you might fall into or what months correspond to others, but it becomes dangerous when you begin changing aspects of your life based on the direction of superstitions like astrology, horoscopes, or tarot cards. It seems to me like some are in it for the money to. However, this does not invalidate either the ideal or respect for authority. Yearning for the supernatural is inborn but entering through the wrong door leads to spiritual harm. An informed, measured review Fr. Is that wrong, astrology? [22] Catherine de Medici paid Michael Nostradamus in 1566 to verify the prediction of the death of her husband, king Henry II of France made by her astrologer Lucus Gauricus. Despair is the biggest danger, though. I have never seen anyone benefit from astrology. God can reveal the future to his prophets or to other saints. Okay. Imagine the kind of wishy-washy deity in which astrologists and their fans believe. Now I pray the rosary daily to strengthen me and use it as a weapon asagint evil. Some scholars argued that horoscopes were often inaccurate and were constantly being adjusted to reflect events that had happened but had not been predicted. Is there any reason to believe in astrology at all? As for the human soul, the Catholic Church teaches that it is eternal, immortal in countless places throughout the Catechism . Were really grateful when you do, givecatholic.com. Now, you can make prognostications. Astrologers do not claim to usurp Gods Providence. All forms of divination are to be rejected, recourse to Satan or demons, conjuring up the dead or other practices, falsely supposed to unveil the future, consulting horoscopes, astrology, palm reading, interpretation of omens and lots, the phenomenon of clairvoyance and recourse to mediums, all conceal the desire for power over time, history, and in the last analysis, other human beings, as well as a wish to conciliate hidden powers. Of which the scriptures say that when he calls them, they say, Here I am. And so, no. Glad You Asked: Why does God allow suffering? C-H is sh, sh. And if astrologers were honest with themselves, theyd see that they enjoy having power over their clients and being the priest who tells their clients what the stars hold for them. Thank god I was able to fight my way out of that. My brother and I still suffer the consequences, both having been denied a college education due to the errors of our parents (we were told to work after graduating high school and never attended college or university he wanting to be an engineer, and myself a historian our gifts will be returned to God, unused, when we go before Him). It has a tendency to take over the lives of people who get involved in it and become a religion. Interest in astrology is growing in the West because humans need something to believe in especially those who refuse to believe that they indeed need to believe in this. Stay away from the mediums, etc they can be very dangerous. All they can do is surmise what they think might be going on a little bit and make some observations about it, if theyre that much on the up and up. Astrological belief in correspondences between celestial observations and terrestrial events have influenced various aspects of human history, including world-views, language and many elements of social culture . If you want to respond to this podcast, you can reach us focus@catholic.com is our website, focus@catholic.com. In Scotland, we have St. Malak or Lewin Bishop. If you go listening to them, then they can steer you in the wrong direction also. They have superior intellegence to humans as a species. Fr. I think I know it. Prior to laying the cornerstone for the reconstructed St. Peters Basilica, Julius II commissioned a horoscope to determine the most auspicious time for laying the stone; it was installed April 18, 1506, at 10 a.m. Others in the church were more skeptical. of astrology is overdue in the interest of truth. COMMENTARY: Although Nancy Reagan, who died March 6, favored astrology and embryonic stem-cell research, she was nevertheless an extraordinarily devoted wife and a huge admirer of St. John Paul II. Hes very important. Is using them for that purpose wrong? God's Providence. The new age of younger adults are seeking yoga and these psychics etc because they are lacking god in their lives. One last thing. For example, have you ever thought of what saints are venerated on your birthday? Still, a sound Christian attitude consists in putting oneself confidently into the hands of Providence for whatever concerns the future, and giving up all unhealthy curiosity about it. Hugh Barbour: Instead, what Catholicism encourages people to do is to submit themselves to Gods Divine Providence. [14][15] The fourteenth century skeptic Nicole Oresme however included astronomy as a part of astrology in his Livre de divinacions. For the judge and the judged are made so by Fate, the murderers and the murdered, the wealthy and the needy[all are] the offspring of the same Fate (Address to the Greeks8 [A.D. 170]). Hugh Barbour: [29], During the Enlightenment, belief in astrology amongst intellectuals fell away, though it had a popular following supported by almanacs. Thats up in the northern part of Holland. You never know. They contradict the honor, respect, and loving fear that we owe to God alone. (CCC 2116). Certainly, any practice astrology, which implies that theres a determined result, or that somethings going to happen for sure, these are all wrong. Ask your guardian angel to protect you and ask often. They are inanimate objects and Gods plan for our happiness is not dependent on anything outside of God, His children, and our free will to follow Him. But the truth is that if we believe them when GOD the creator have condemned fortune telling, it means that God is not important to us. Divinization, we want that. Thus the high-spirited and he who is crushed with toil, the temperate and the intemperate, the indigent and the wealthy, are what they are simply from the controllers of their nativity. Horoscopes do offer advice. Peace. permission to publish this work is hereby granted. We have at Turin, Torino in Italia, in Liguria, on the coast of Italy there up north, we have St. Maximus. It is a powerful trip to take hold and power over people. is an excellent summary on the danger of occult knowledge. Another point I want to make, we should all know the day of our baptism, so we can celebrate it as the anniversary of our receiving the life of Grace. Well, St. June 25th. If you have been consulting your horoscope, visited a fortune-teller, involved in conjuring spirits, or used a ouija board you should go to confession as soon as you can. Theyre so great that theyre even over the sun, the moon, and so on. Astrology has long been regarded as an enticing evil, and seems to hold answers for us, but its a dead-end. There are 12 constellations within the zodiac family: Aries, Taurus, Gemini, Cancer, Leo, Virgo, Libra, Scorpius, Sagittarius, Capricornus, Aquarius, and Pisces. Theyre looking for happiness, or some guarantee, or protection, or whatever, insight. Thats just one thing. When a teen and young adult, I was the youngest of 5 and lived at home. Hugh Barbour: March 16, 2013 at 8:27 am I got deceived by someone who I thought I trusted and was led to a woman who owned her own hair salon and started counseling me and doing some playing card showing me who I am. In the context of a unique life, it is a useful tool to explore the disposition and character of a person, so that better choices can be made for their own good and the good of others. Dominic and Francis are good names too. All right. A surprising look at astrology, next with Father Hugh. Of all the constellations, this is perhaps the most Catholic. By the 18th century, measurements of the stars movements improved due to advances in optics and mathematics. It was only to evaluate a persons What their temperament would be like, what would they would need for the particular illnesses that they would be most likely to incur. Our choice is to accept His work ( Romans 6:23 . Great wrong is done to Gods creatures by the star-expounders. So then also, then theres another St. Prosper in Emilia in Italy. God isnt speaking through astrologers. Cy Kellett: Cy Kellett: Hello, and welcome to Focus, the Catholic Answers podcast for living, understanding and defending your Catholic faith. The Catholic Church teaches that reading, consulting and drawing horoscopes, interpreting omens and consulting mediums or psychics all conceal a desire for power over time, history, and in the final analysis, other human beings. They are considered violations of the First Commandment because they contradict the honor, respect, and loving fear we owe to God alone (CCC 2116). [T]hose who overstep the borders, making the words of Scripture [And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heavens . But what similarity is there of these [constellations] with the likeness of animals, or what community of nature are regards conduct and energy, that one should allege that a person born in Leo should be irascible [like a lion] and that one born in Virgo moderate [like a virgin] or one born in Cancer wicked [like a crab]? (Refutation of All Heresies4:37 [A.D. 228]). Dont forget to subscribe so that youll be notified, and dont forget to leave that positive review. When one seeks information or some outcome through occult means, one is (1) wasting his time, (2) embarrassing himself and (3) desperately trying to circumvent God, which is always the worst of bad ideas. . Consulting horoscopes, astrology, palm reading, interpretation of omens and lots, the phenomena of clairvoyance, and recourse to mediums all conceal a desire for power over time, history, and, in the last analysis, other human beings, as well as a wish to conciliate hidden powers. Pagans believed that the stars were divinities, or that they were controlled by divinities. We asked Father Hugh Barbour for his insights.